Thanks to another coffee lover's desire to upgrade a while back, a La Pavoni PBC Conical Burr Espresso Grinder became available. I had been saving for a Preciso but almost picked up a demo La Pavoni like this one that 1st Line Equipment offered at a discounted price. I waited too long though for that one and someone else picked it up instead. I got a fair deal and was able to compare a conical burr grinder that on paper looks like it compares favorably with the Preciso.

 

I like the step-less adjustment since my one of my other electric conical burr grinders - the Baratza Virtuoso - does have small but distinct steps. The other feature I like is the threaded outer burr carrier - the ability to grind finely is created only with precise stability when the moving parts are so very close together - this burr carrier can meet this requirement.

 

The seller mentioned the adjustment sticks when dialing the grind - I determined after a couple uses this was caused by play in the outer burr carrier - Teflon tape to the rescue. Now the adjustment is smooth, the motor isn't working as hard, and the quality of the grind is noticeably improved as well. The machine does not feel as robust as the Virtuoso but does not feel too flimsy for my intended daily use of grinding a couple shots worth of beans. The TreSpade burr set is only a little slower than the Virtuoso but the comparison isn't exact since the La Pavoni is easily grinding finer than my current setting on the Baratza.

 

The ground retention is a bit better on the Baratza but it isn't too big a problem on the La Pavoni - more important to me is neither machine suffers from static cling with the beans I am using. I was pleasantly surprised by the compactness and the nice overall appearance of this machine. It will do what it is designed for - grinding coffee beans into grounds fine enough for espresso. When it comes down to taste, the LaPavoni PBC scores a win over the Virtuoso by revealing more complexity in the shot while using the same beans and volume. 

 

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Submitted by wakeknot on
Do they have them made for them by someone else like Elektra does with their grinders (which are just rebadged grinders with a different shell) or does Pavoni make them themselves?

Submitted by EricBNC on
<br>This set up is very common with the motor, worm drive, and conical burrs in an assembly. The sheet metal or plastic might change but the guts are usually very similar. Not all have the TreSpade burr set but even those have something similar. I imagine the motor comes in different wattage's depending on what the manufacturer's price point is for the grinder being built. The Lux, Le'lit PL53, Ascaso I2, and Iberital Challenge to name a few share this common set up though the complete list is much longer. Here is a borrowed from Google image - the inside of mine looks like this down to the plastic dispensing chute. <br> <img src="/files/u2252/IMG_0926.jpg" align="top" height="137" width="200" />

Submitted by jbviau on
This is your second-string espresso grinder, right? Do you use the K30 ES more?

Submitted by EricBNC on
<br>Thanks - yes the K30 is the daily driver. Sometimes I want to try a coffee but don't want to empty the (modified) hopper on the K30 so the La Pavoni allows me this flexibility. I can get a pretty good idea if I want to add it to the hopper or turn it into pour over or press. Not every coffee tastes good to me as espresso and not every bean is at peak - these do not make it into the rotation. So maybe a sample grinder then. : )

Hmm I like your set up of being able to try something before you want to load it up into your big grinder, makes sense. These grinders are always of interest to me, and would love to try a shot or two from them to compare what I get from my Preciso.

Submitted by EricBNC on
<br>I got to try the Preciso with the same coffee I have at home now - I will be able to put up a comparison soon.

La Pavoni Tre Spade Conical Burr Grinder Review

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Thanks to another coffee lover's desire to upgrade a while back, a La Pavoni PBC Conical Burr Espresso Grinder became available. I had been saving for a Preciso but almost picked up a demo La Pavoni like this one that 1st Line Equipment offered at a discounted price. I waited too long though for that one and someone else picked it up instead. I got a fair deal and was able to compare a conical burr grinder that on paper looks like it compares favorably with the Preciso.

 

I like the step-less adjustment since my one of my other electric conical burr grinders - the Baratza Virtuoso - does have small but distinct steps. The other feature I like is the threaded outer burr carrier - the ability to grind finely is created only with precise stability when the moving parts are so very close together - this burr carrier can meet this requirement.

 

The seller mentioned the adjustment sticks when dialing the grind - I determined after a couple uses this was caused by play in the outer burr carrier - Teflon tape to the rescue. Now the adjustment is smooth, the motor isn't working as hard, and the quality of the grind is noticeably improved as well. The machine does not feel as robust as the Virtuoso but does not feel too flimsy for my intended daily use of grinding a couple shots worth of beans. The TreSpade burr set is only a little slower than the Virtuoso but the comparison isn't exact since the La Pavoni is easily grinding finer than my current setting on the Baratza.

 

The ground retention is a bit better on the Baratza but it isn't too big a problem on the La Pavoni - more important to me is neither machine suffers from static cling with the beans I am using. I was pleasantly surprised by the compactness and the nice overall appearance of this machine. It will do what it is designed for - grinding coffee beans into grounds fine enough for espresso. When it comes down to taste, the LaPavoni PBC scores a win over the Virtuoso by revealing more complexity in the shot while using the same beans and volume. 

 

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I am curious too

October 23, 2011 | by EricBNC


I got to try the Preciso with the same coffee I have at home now - I will be able to put up a comparison soon.

Hmm I like your set up of

October 21, 2011 | by intrepid510

Hmm I like your set up of being able to try something before you want to load it up into your big grinder, makes sense. These grinders are always of interest to me, and would love to try a shot or two from them to compare what I get from my Preciso.

@jbviau

October 3, 2011 | by EricBNC


Thanks - yes the K30 is the daily driver. Sometimes I want to try a coffee but don't want to empty the (modified) hopper on the K30 so the La Pavoni allows me this flexibility. I can get a pretty good idea if I want to add it to the hopper or turn it into pour over or press. Not every coffee tastes good to me as espresso and not every bean is at peak - these do not make it into the rotation. So maybe a sample grinder then. : )

Good read

October 2, 2011 | by jbviau

This is your second-string espresso grinder, right? Do you use the K30 ES more?

@Wakeknot

October 2, 2011 | by EricBNC


This set up is very common with the motor, worm drive, and conical burrs in an assembly. The sheet metal or plastic might change but the guts are usually very similar. Not all have the TreSpade burr set but even those have something similar. I imagine the motor comes in different wattage's depending on what the manufacturer's price point is for the grinder being built. The Lux, Le'lit PL53, Ascaso I2, and Iberital Challenge to name a few share this common set up though the complete list is much longer. Here is a borrowed from Google image - the inside of mine looks like this down to the plastic dispensing chute.

thanks I've always wondered about these

October 2, 2011 | by wakeknot

Do they have them made for them by someone else like Elektra does with their grinders (which are just rebadged grinders with a different shell) or does Pavoni make them themselves?

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